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9A Thread protector & 3C Collet adaptor

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The way I understand things , the thread protector/ knock out nut goes on the spindle first & then ya put the collet sleeve in & the thread protector is used to pop the sleeve out when ya unscrew the thread protector . On my lathe I can slide the thread protector clean over the sleeve , so it does not help to remove the sleeve in any way . Just gettin to the point that I have some collets now , Is it a issue with getting the sleeve out without using the thread protector ?
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